Writing With Substance: You Can Haz it! SRSLY!

Class Chat, 9/28: FB, Privacy, and Security

Rules: Everyone contributes! 

Which of the assigned readings can be defined as academic scholarship? Which ones are in public, commercial, and/or non-scholarly work? Which ones are examples of journalism? Can we define the particular genre/specific type of writing these non-scholarly articles are?  What's the difference between scholarly work and non-scholarly work in specific terms? 

Which ones are opinion pieces or intended to offer a persuasive argument instead of relaying information? 
What does each writer in the assigned reading discuss in his/her work? What did we learn from each one?

Discuss each piece and discuss what we learn or are encouraged to think more deeply about from reading them together. 

Work on using attributive tags as you discuss the specific details in them; refer to writers by last name--try to avoid speaking vaguely and generally.

Danielle: on the FB article. everybody seems really mad about it, but it happened a two years before the article was published so is it ok since it happened a while before and since no private data was shared is it really so bad?

Nick: people don't like to be deceived.

Olivia: I was pretty angry about it. It's legal, but is it ethical? I don't think so. I don't read the terms, but FB shouldn't manipulate your feed. 
Waseet: we all feel envious when we read about people's feeds; the problem is that they manipulate our news feeds, and we see it as a problem only when we learn they've been doing it.

Mikaela: Where does it stop?

Danielle: in my ethics class, we've learned that it's an ethical breach to not reveal study

Nick: the study was also flawed

Waseet: the method/software doesn't work very well; so the re
Cat: it's not right to manipulate people because you don't actually know about people's lives and could be damaging.

Marisa: methodology was flawed because it worked on key words, not context.

Shubam: We want more positive things in our feeds.

Nick: I don't like being manipulated.

Olivia: I don't think we should be relying on FB and social media to determine our moods. It's sad that we've let it overtake our lives. 

Mikaela: they were suggesting that the effects could be lasting.

Danielle: the FB lady's mood was affected by the ads.

Marisa: On an episode of Dr. Phil, a woman cited FB 

Mikaela: [on Terras] She tried to block some of the ads but then got different ads. 

Ciera: I was ordering glasses and they stayed in my cart for like a week and that account on the website has my credit card. What can they see and not see?

Olivia: these choices like having children are big choices and personal choices; FB dictates so much of our lives.  

Danielle: what FB can and can't do: we all don't read the terms and conditions?

Mikaela: even if you try to read the terms and conditions

Waseet: some terms can be complicated, but they are simplified.  

Jackie: They should make them smaller/shorter

Mikaela: the length deters you from using.

Ned: They don't want you to understand them.

Danielle: If you can't be bothered to read it, it is that then your fault?

Alyssa: you are forced because/if you want to to use the App...

Olivia: there was a new post about the new privacy

Danielle: They change those all the time.

Olivia: every couple months there's a new thing and everybody gets outraged?

Mikaela: How can anybody keep up with it? Even if you do read  them, what if they change them? People expect people to have FB, and it's weird if you don't--people don't know what to do with that. 

Ned: I have it but don't use it. 

Alyssa: it's not just FB; it's all social media.

Danielle: do we follow the norms or protect our privacy? 

Olivia: it changes my settings to public occasionally without me doing anything.