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• 1 2021-05-31T11:08:13-07:00 Social Media Content for Deena Larsen's "Marble Springs 1.0" 31 Audience participation via Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Chat plain 2021-08-18T15:03:11-07:00
  The following are postings on social media sites that promoted the live Traversal of Marble Springs prior to, during, and after the event. Social media sites include the Electronic Literature Lab's Twitter and YouTube accounts.
   

  Twitter 

  The Electronic Literature Lab used its Twitter account to post promotional content regarding the Traversal of Marble Springs 1.0. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  Instagram 

  The Electronic Literature Lab used their Instagram account to post promotional content regarding the Traversal of Marble Springs.
  
  
  
   

  YouTube Live Chat 

  Because Traversals are all streamed live via YouTube, the lab took advantage of the chat feature offered by the network to provide a forum for the audience to make comments and ask questions. The chat is then saved and added to this book as part of the Traversal archive. The Traversal can be watched on YouTube here.
  
  
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Welcome, all.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Hi folks!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Welcome to the Live Traversal
  
  Richard Snyder
  Hi everyone!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Good to see you!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Hey all!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Hi!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Good to see you!
  
  Will Luers
  Good morning.
  
  Mariusz Pisarski
  hello everyone!
  
  asondheim
  Hi Everyone!
  
  Holly June
  Hello all!
  
  Deena Larsen
  Hi all! So wonderful to see you
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Yeh! Such lovely people joining us
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Alan!
  
  Deena Larsen
  Alan! Hooray!
  
  asondheim
  Hooray Deena!
  
  Deena Larsen
  We are 2 minutes from going live, quickly doing the dishes and the sweeping... nahh. just the final tech check
  
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  I'm just totally digging the montage. (Gah, just heard my wife's unmistakable voice in the bg of one of the interviews.)
  
  Deena Larsen
  Serves pineapples and tea and scones for all.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  One minute before take off
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Holly made it, of course
  
  Deena Larsen
  Suart, without Nancy's work on the web version of Marble Springs, where would we be?
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  This is the flight to Detroit. If you think you;re going to Cleveland, too bad.
  
  Deena Larsen
  Have I thanked Nancy Kaplan enough for that over the years??
  
  Kathleen Zoller
  Feel free to follow along on Twitter, too! #elitlab #elitpathfinders
  
  beebly
  Hi all — can't wait!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Audio fine, Deena!
  
  Richard Snyder
  I didn't realize that HyperCard originally came free.
  
  maria M
  hello everybody!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Yep, Apple didn't know what to do with HC. Never did, actually.
  
  Richard Snyder
  So how long was it before they charged for it?
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Hi Maria!
  
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  I don't remember HC costing anyrtibng
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  2.0 was a commercial product, I think.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  There is sound in this work, btw. You will hear sounds in some places evoked
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  This is one of the salient features of HC
  
  Richard Snyder
  The border is so beautiful. I love the marginalia aspect.
  
  Richard Holeton
  The card metaphor of Hypercard was very powerful.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  It's weird, but HyperCard now looks so at home in the 19th century.
  
  asondheim
  I always felt lost without this structure (I was on PC) - more ab nihilo - the cards are tremendous -
  
  maria M
  Hello Dene !
  
  Kathleen Zoller
  The imagery is gorgeous
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Deena is doing a really lovely traversal.
  
  asondheim
  beautiful!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  she is a natural
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Know that there is a 5 second lag
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  sometimes shorter
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  In case of swearing... nah.
  
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  the transitions are representative of HC
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  "Stoner connection" has several meanings in HyperCard.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Unlike Storyspace, HC needs only a single click
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Quilt and weaving is a major motif in Deena's hypertext week. We see it again in Samplers and Century Cross
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  And the quilting continues with Anastasia Salter.
  
  asondheim
  And Maria Damon
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  And Shelley Jackson
  
  Richard Holeton
  (and Patchwork Girl)
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Hey Rich!
  
  Richard Holeton
  [smiling face emoji]
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  And Carolyn Guyer
  
  Richard Snyder
  "nested series of maps" -- I'm IN
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Quibbling
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Yeah, we're all quilters after all.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  The navigation is extremely complex
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  This work contains about 600 links
  
  
  Richard Holeton
  Yes it would be great to see a schematic of the structure, wonder if Deena has such a thing other than in her mind.
  
  Holly June
  Let us tell you about the shower curtain!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Mrs. Beaton, or a knockoff.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  MS does an excellent showing the racism inherent in the American West.
  
  David SabrowskiI
  love the rachel cole illustration. It looks like one of those lesser known accents you can find in an elegent font face
  
  Holly June
  The illustrations were made by Kathleen Turner-- they are lovely.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Hi Dave!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Deena is famous for her line: Structure = Meaning
  
  asondheim
  which is a bit like category theory
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  I was remembering that line last week, looking at a student's first hypertext. It's very true.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  We are very glad she is showing the marble
  
  Richard Snyder
  Structure = meaning definitely on display here.
  
  Richard Snyder
  I love the feeling of exploration.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Deena's email addresses in the 90s took names of MS for the username
  
  
  Richard Holeton
  I'm also a fan of "structure = meaning." Or architecture. Nabokov talked about the "architectonics" of the novel.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  this work is full of tragedy, focused on women's plight in a harsh terrain
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Deena uses stone a lot as a motif in her work
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Yeah, HyperTalk supported random values. Storyspace notably did not.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  There was a sound there--not sure if you heard it
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  :nods at Stuart
  
  asondheim
  I wonder if any of these people were real people?
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Rich: mapping this work would be a challenge
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  And of course, HyperTalk at one point included a command that would turn off the Mac. Sigh.
  
  Holly June
  Doc Nancy was inspired by a real person, Doc Susie.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  "Any resemblance to persons living or dead..."
  
  Richard Holeton
  How many characters are in MS?
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Fargo:)
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  I have not yet counted but I need to for the book'
  
  
  Holly June
  Mariusz writes in his essay on Techsty: "And there is a lot to explore: stories of profiles of at least 56 women, 35 men, and 16 locations and institutions are included in Marble Springs."
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  All these texts on the far side of the novel... Marble Springs... Patchwork Girl... Uncles Roger and Buddy... database, encyclopedia, archive.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  I called it a bat
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  She teases me about this
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  The owl is not what it seems.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  terrific writing
  
  Kathleen Zoller
  Richard I think Mariusz said 56 women and 35 men appear in Marble Springs (?)
  
  asondheim
  I wonder if the relative slowness doesn't turn this apparently into a physical object, relfective of the town itself, instead of relating through "instanteous" links -
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  This bit is so beautiful.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  And what Alan said.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  The speed gives it an elegiac experience
  
  asondheim
  absolutely - and that's critical!
  
  asondheim
  everything _unfolds_
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  it looks like a bat
  
  Holly June
  Team Owl
  
  
  Kathleen Zoller
  60% owl, 40% bat
  
  Wide Angle Studios
  Owl ears and feathers
  
  asondheim
  owl
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  bat grimace
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Owlbat. Bowl. Howl.
  
  Richard Holeton
  +1 Kathleen
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Stuart is my hero\
  
  beebly
  Terrific traversal, all.
  
  asondheim
  fantastic!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Superbo!
  
  maria M
  amazing! Thank you Deena.
  
  Kathleen Zoller
  Thank you so much, Deena, Mariusz, Dene, and everyone else involved! This is so wonderful
  
  Holly June
  Deena, can you talk about how long you were writing Marble Springs?
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  I believe that it would take 400 hours to document this work
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  That's some major link density. But factor in the randoms, foax.
  
  Oreto Doménech i Masià
  Thanks a lot to you, Deena, for all the wonderful literary work you have done!!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Meaning, the randoms just blow the thing off the scale.
  
  
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  I was trying to be careful not to hit the randoms but I did at the end by accident
  
  Holly June
  An authentic reading experience, then :)
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  90% of life is innuendo.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Makes me think about those Companions to Ulysses, Gravity;s Rainbow, House of Leaves. Only here the Companion kicks the Doctor out of the TARDIS. (Serious metaphor slippage there.)
  
  Deena Larsen
  Thanks Stuart Yes, it really is the Tardis, the hidden icebergs.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Terry was a Hyper-hacker when I first knew him. Circa 1989.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Washington State U Vancouver, not UW
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Terry's book Ex-foliations influenced my work with preversation
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  According to one letter, Deena wrote that she wanted to get the work back from Mark after it was already published because she wanted to hold on to MS
  
  Mariusz Pisarski
  Please post your questions here... thanks so much!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  If you look at the lab
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  lab's Twitter site, you can see images of Deena and the work posted there: https://twitter.com/ELitLab
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Heard "hidden links" as "kitten links." What a concept.
  
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  bat links
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Owl structure.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  very wisely developed
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Great question, Mariusz.
  
  Mariusz Pisarski
  Thanks! Now guys your turn!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Reclaiming sobriety: yep, MS and Uncle Buddy are the soul of HyperCard.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  We discussed during rehearsal on Tuesday that Deena would recreate MS as a relational database. Mariusz and I disagreed with her and so I have to say that her shift to locative makes better sense
  
  maria Mlocative
  sounds good!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Deena gave the ELO a copy of Spoon River, but it is not the original
  
  Deena Larsen
  in fact I think I bought a copy of Spoon River at the Portland bookstore Powells
  
  beebly
  I resist the idea that MS isn't friendly to readers: all you have to do is live in the town long enough to come to know it.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Should probably mention If Monks Had Macs, on reflection.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  I agree with you, Beebly. Even in the early days I had no trouble with HC. In fact, I love the hypermedia aspect of it
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  McDaid did the traversal in Pathfinders 1
  
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Now just have to rescue all the Flash on the web
  
  asondheim
  it's been absolutely brilliant -
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Hey a kitten link!
  
  Kathleen Zoller
  It's neither an owl nor a bat. It's a cat!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  [smiling face emoji]
  
  David Sabrowski
  i would have been more excited if it was a bat, to be completely hones
  
  asondheim
  is excitement the goal?
  
  David Sabrowski
  I think excitement should always be a little part of the goal
  
  Deena Larsen
  To explore in an excited mindframe is the goal
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  We should really get this stuff on Twitch.
  
  Richard Holeton
  Thanks so much Deena. Wonderful. And Mariusz, terrific job, thank you.
  
  Deena Larsen
  Twitch would be good.
  
  asondheim
  to excite and to live within might be two different things -
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Deena, we should talk.
  
  asondheim
  it's not wrong or right -
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Also, what Alan said again.
  
  
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Yes, Stuart. We considered Twitch when we started Rebooting but shifted to YouTube because of the broadness of the audience.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Wise move.
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  But the lab could do an additional Twitch experience or switch to it
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  We are on our 4th year of the Rebooting project
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Stuart, can you believe that we started Traversals in 2013?
  
  Richard Holeton
  Photoshop makes me cry too.
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Flash makes me cry but for a different reason.
  
  beebly
  This has been wonderful — thank you Mariusz, Dene, & DEENA!!
  
  asondheim
  thank you all so greatly!
  
  Stuart Moulthrop
  Thanks Mariusz, Dene, all at ELL. This has been a triumph.
  
  Mariusz Pisarski
  Thank you all, you a wonderful audience!
  
  Richard Holeton
  Yes thanks again to all.
  
  David Sabrowski
  This was a great experience. Thank you all
  
  Deena Larsen
  2,106 works of e-lit. 25 collections. Six collection categories. Welcome to the Electronic Literature Repository!
  
  
  Deena Larsen
  ELO SEcond Tuesday Salon is looking for 2021 spots
  
  Holly June
  The interface design-- content design to come!
  
  maria M
  good work Mariusz! thanks everybody, it was great to see you Deena taking us through MS
  
  Holly June
  Thank you Mariusz, Dene, and Deena!
  
  Electronic Literature Lab
  Thank you everyone for joining us1