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Tell us how this all began, where did you start off?
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I started off on that corner over there.
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I ended up over here since there wasn't anything back then. It was only there where the block begins.
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Nowadays there's more. This would all be filled with vendors but the police have cleared out the area.
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It would be prettier if it hadn't been cleared of people.
Nowadays there's more. This would all be filled with vendors but the police have cleared out the area.
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It would be prettier if it hadn't been cleared of people.
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What happened?
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Because they want to keep the streets clean of people, due to robbers and all.
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What is done in these streets?
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Nowadays the place is uninhabited, because it used to be full of people selling their recycled parts, but not anymore.
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What do you do with pieces that can't be recycled?
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Things that can't be recycled are sometimes just left in the street.
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Because there are people who gather them and re-use it, whilst some parts finish in the garbage fills.
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Leticia has always been associated with repairs and recycling? Or only repairs? Recyling?
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No, both repairs and recycling. Because you purchase material, repair what you can and recycle the rest.
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And if you have a part which can be sold to be reused, do you prioritize reuse or recycling?
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It depends on the price. It's mainly reuse which is preferred, since it's a better price than recycling, where you take everything apart.
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How do you perceive the future of Giron Leticia?
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Well nowadays it looks like it's going to expire, since the municipality has begun to clean and re-organize the streets, and this will affect Leticia.
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And where would the people who work here go?
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Those who have shops will stay there, because most people now have a fixed stand.
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People have shops to provide reparations and recylcing.
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So people won't lose their jobs?
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No, no. Of course, you pay more, since you have to pay to have a shop, unlike in the street.
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How many people like you work in this sector here, and how much has it evolved. Let's say, 25 years ago, how many leaders like you were there? And nowadays?
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There were few of us back then, about a third of today. Perhaps 300 people. And today it's all Giron.
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More than a thousand?
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Of course. It's grown because more and more people have come, and everyone works here, I mean, there's work for all of them.
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And the volume of electronics has increased, evidently, along with electronic use - have you felt that increase?
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Do you feel in the streets the increase in electronic devices being used?
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Of course. Because it used to be much less.
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Only two years ago... It has decreased recently, and there's no longer as much material as before. People are competing for it.
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Why?
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Perhaps it's due to the companies. I'm not sure. It seems that since they modernized... Before things came in volume, now devices are smaller.
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Before we'd receive two or three truckloads. But now the amount of devices that arrive has decreased.
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Tell us a bit the history of these places, your friends...
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There are many friends here.
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International television my friends!
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All these are my friends, they know me well.
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They all know me because I've been here since the beginning.
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Other than you who has been here longer?
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How long ago did they set up these fences?
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Recently, not even 4 months ago.
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This is due to the authorities which cleared out the place, otherwise it would have been prettier.
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A picture for the boys.
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What channel is it?
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It's a foreign channel.
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Regards!
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This is where this would be taken apart.
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People would take things apart for sale?
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This would be full if it weren't for the authorities.
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Do people still make screwdrivers out of printers and all?
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Of course, all that is taken apart.
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What other artifacts are made of the taken apart devices?
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Some can be reused, and some are simply taken apart.
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To my friends, for the world.
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For example, with those old printers, what could you make?
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Some can be used and others are simply taken apart.
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And when you take apart those devices can you make other products?
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Of course, you can use the little motors, the circuit, which can be sold.
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What are they doing there?
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It all has a use?
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Everything, we use everything.
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This is a friend of mine, he's one of the veterans here.
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He's even older than me.
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How old are you sir?
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And you've always worked in Leticia?
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Always.
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And always in taking apart and selling parts?
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Yes.
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He used to be specialized in televisions.
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And which was the first television you ever worked on?
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The Duo
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Now technicians study three months and that's it. Before you had to study electricity, than one thing after then other, before graduating.
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I studied 4 years, in the politechnical university.
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I was telling them that the market used to only start here, and there was nothing else - do you remember?
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Growing up in Leticia (incomprehensible)
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And your store?
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I don't have a store. This is my store...
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And now you dedicate yourself to selling parts?
I don't have a store. This is my store...
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And now you dedicate yourself to selling parts?
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Batteries... I rebuild the batteries...
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Here there is no sale of batteries.
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I'm a technician, one could say.
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Throughout your life in this business, do you feel that our society re-uses parts, when discussing the construction of devices with reused pieces?
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Yes, because we are lucky that this is the only country that has never known motor-wheels (rodaje).
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All countries of Latin America produce motor-wheels, except for Peru.
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What are motor-wheels?
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It's a wheel upon which the motor turns, and that has never been produced in Peru, so we have problems with these pieces.
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We've always purchased it on the international market, and no one has ever worried for there to be a local production.
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Thank you.
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He is one of this place's pillars.
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Here's been in Mexico, he always travels there.
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It would have been good to see all the vendors out, but due to the government organization.
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But where are those people now?
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When do you know when people needs certain parts. When is the market created?
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For example, previously no one needed magnets, and now students are coming to buy them. How does that market emerge, in your experience?
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Well I believe someone came and found this, and now magnets are being purchased often.
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For example, electric circuits always had a market for recycling?
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No, initially no one paid attention to circuits. And when computing began to take off, they be purchased by loads, but now they are sold individually.
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They have a new value.
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And all of these parts have an established market, of people who purchase these things?
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Yes, they have establised clients for these things, that you call on the phone and they come to purchase the amount you have.
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Which parts, for example, previously didn't have a market and now it does?
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There are components that we didn't value back in the day. In computing, for example, when we began we paid no attention to motherboards, etc.
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And now everything has it's value and is sold individually.
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There were things that are expensive, and we'd throw them out without knowing.
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But no longer, everything is valued, and each part has its buyer.
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Anything else you would like to add with regards to your life in Leticia?
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I've been here for 25 years now, and it seems that this is where I will retire.
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Thank you Don Freddy.
