Interview with Alex & Juan.
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My name is John Carlos.
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My name is Alex.
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Where are we?
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We are now in Lima. This place is called Leticia, where you find all electronics.
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This is our work site where we come to work every day.
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Does it have a name?
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No, not yet.
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What do you work on?
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I work mainly on programming.
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With those laptops, I do programming.
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I am the person who does the designs.
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I know how to design, and I know basic electronics, and I'm also studying.
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I also put together the circuits.
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He does the programming and I put together the circuits.
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What are you working on?
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I program electronic boards, so that they carry out an activity.
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The client comes and requests an activity, so I program that and pass it to the board, which is called an Arduino.
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And the Arduino does what the client asks.
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Do you also work in Rasperry Pie, or Arduino only?
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We work with Arduino, PICs, everything that has to do with programming.
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Microcontrollers and PLC [Programmable Logic Controller] also.
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What is it you mainly do on a normal day?
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On a typical day we get to work and see what we left from yesterday.
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And we start checking whatever we weren't able to do.
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Things that did work out we leave it ready for sale, because we sell what we do.
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And we check out with the laptop what could be failing - because there are simulation programs you can use.
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For me, a typical day, I arrive in the morning, open my laptop and check the programs, so as to pass them onto the Arduino,
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and I start to produce the aesthetics, the models that you produce with this.
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Today for example I'm going to start on an elevator someone requested.
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I have the program all ready, and all I need is to put together an elevator which will go up the floors.
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Then, if I have other programs to do, I do them.
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I've also carried out a LED sequence, of many lights that turn on in sequence.
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And what are these?
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Those are programmed cars.
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It's all PICs.
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They are cars that will follow a line.
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They are all remote controlled.
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This is a mask which is controlled by sensors, and can move to the rhythm.
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And these are also PICs, to control other devices.
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This is an environmental model we are putting together.
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It's a model which runs on wind energy to turn on the LEDs.
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It's renewable energy. Like solar power.
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Those are small projects high-schools request.
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When it comes to programming, that's more for institutes and universities.
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We are still in school. This is like an internship for us.
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Where do you study?
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I'm studying in the Avancis Institute, I don't know if you've heard of it.
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In the 3rd cycle of Industrial electronics.
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I'm studying in the San Marcos national university, in my 3rd year of Electronic engineering.
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How long have you been working here?
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I haven't been here for long, only about 3 weeks.
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Me too.
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We both started coming here together.
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Did you rent the stand or...?
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No, the stand belongs to a lady who has hired us.
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She tells us what the projects are, we carry them out, and then we present them.
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How did you start working in this?
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Well, I started because I already new a bit, since I'm in my 3rd year, so I came here in search for work.
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I found this lady and she's given me the opportunity, and here I am.
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Me too, it's just that due to university commitments, I didn't have the time.
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Now, in this year I was able to accommodate my schedule, so I've come, mainly to learn more.
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Because, as you know, at university there isn't much practice. And here I can perfect my knowledge, so to say.
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That's why I'm here.
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What was the first thing you repaired or dismantled?
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I remember when I first came, the first thing I did was a car which followed lines.
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I don't know if you've seen those?
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It's cars with optical sensors at front, and the optical sensors allow the car to follow a black line.
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That's the first thing I did when I got here.
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Me too, when I arrived here, the lady asked me to elaborate light-followers -
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those are circuits that can be adapted to anything, motors, LEDs, it's the same.
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It's a sensor based on a photocell which allows electricity to pass or not.
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That's the ruckus from the stands that are trying out sound systems.
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Do you also elaborate kits to teach other students?
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Yes, we make kits like these.
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They give us all the materials, and we put it together.
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We didn't elaborate this part, that was already there.
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What we do is finish the kit, we package it, and then take it there.
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We bring 10 kits, we finish them, test them, and then they're off to be sold.
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Oh, you work for the lady over there?
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Yes.
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We interviewed her recently.
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She is in charge of negotiating with the clients, then everything comes here, this is where we do all the rest.
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This is the factory, and over there is the store.
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This is where we make the kit, and over there is where it's sold.
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Ok, yes, she mentioned she had some boys working for her.
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Yes, that's us!
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What's the difference between recycling, dismantling and repairing?
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Recycling is using things that we know are no longer in use and mainly, that won't damage the environment.
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Reparation implies giving life to devices which have been forgotten for some reason.
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Taking apart is - for example - if you can't get your hands on replacement parts.
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Here in Peru we can't find the parts that might be available in other countries.
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So we get the parts from other devices which are ready to be recycled.
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That's where we get the parts, even if they're sometimes rusty.
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Do you often need to take devices apart to obtain the parts you need?
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In general, the projects we elaborate here use parts we can find here in the store.
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We sometimes take apart small devices.
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For example, we'll purchase some cars, and we need the motors they have, or the tires,
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to make new things, like these for example.
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Did you see the ones like this at the other store?
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Those are the ones we make.
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These are the light-following robots.
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This is the light-detector sensor.
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This is a car. We buy it wholesale, and accommodate it to work with the electronic board we program.
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You were talking about circuits when we arrived?
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Yes, I was asking him a favor. I was asking him to put together the electronic board for these circuits.
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These are the circuits I put together.
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It's a LEDs matrix, and the message comes out here.
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I programmed the message myself.
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This is the PIC, the programming.
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The brain.
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I was asking him if he could pass this to an electronic board, so that there not be as many cables, but only copper circuitry.
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I already designed the circuitry in my laptop, and I was showing him.
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What would be your goal for this year?
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To invent something perhaps?
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Something for the planet? It'd have to be something incredible, no?
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Some kind of object. Like one of those little robots which picks up the garbage, because in Lima people leave their garbage everywhere.
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Something to raise awareness in people, with a robot or something, that could be.
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I'm more involved in programming.
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And I hadn't really thought about something for the planet, but the dream of every programmer is to make a robot which will obey your commands.
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That's my dream. And I'm achieving it little by little.
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I'm learning new things here too.
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Only to thank you, for giving us the opportunity to express ourselves
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I suppose everyone's going to see this right?
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Just to say that people keep supporting this world where electronics and recycling go hand in hand.
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I'm person of few words. I talk mostly when directly asked.
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I'm more of a quiet person.
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Since I'm always on the computer, I'm not too social, I stay at home on the computer and don't go out.
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You made it out to here.
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Yes, I come to work
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But here I also just stay in the corner on the laptop.
