Reassembling Rubbish

Transcript of interview with Sandra

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Can you tell us your experience working here as a woman in a world dominated by men?

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I've had bad experiences sometimes, when women come - people of my own sex - they come to ask,

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sometimes my technicians aren't here, they have work or school and I'm alone at the stand,

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they ask me to do a certain job, and I say of course, I can do it.

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But they ask, "but where is the technician?".

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And I answer: "I am the technician".

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So amongst women we sometimes - how to put it... -

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we marginalize ourselves, imagining that only men can be technician or construction workers, but things are not like that.

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It doesn't seem fair to me, and it's happened once and again.

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I think we are sometimes machistas amongst women,

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by saying that men must do this or that and women must do other things, and I don't think that's fair.

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So have you had to struggle against that?

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Yes, it happened just recently with one woman.

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And when I handed in the final job she was surprised because I did it quick, because I'm quick.

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She was amazed.

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And did you tell her something?

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She liked it, and she took back her words, and said that women can be equal to men.

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We can do the same, in construction for example, not only in the kitchen.

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Well, to be honest I don't like cooking, I don't know how to cook!

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But I do like eating well.

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You make security systems.

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How do those systems work?

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Now, as electronics has progressed, everything is done via GPS and cell phones.

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Things have really changed since when we begun.

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And as time passes technology advances and you need to seek advise and attend courses to stay up-to-date.

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The cell phone ones, how does that work?

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For example, we can set up a door at your home.

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You have your cell phone with you, wherever you are,

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and when that door opens, you automatically receive a call on your phone and you know someone has broken in.

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Same thing for GPS, it lets you know.

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And why does it notify the home-owner and not the police?

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Because it's a program.

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The things is the police don't do anything.

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It's happened to me, and they don't do anything.

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The program notifies you so you can call your neighbours to let them know, or you call the police.

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It's more direct, because with the police, by the time they are notified you've already been robbed.

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On the other hand, here, as soon as someone opens your door you are being notified.

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So you can call your neighbour, so they can do something, they can make some noise.

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So neighbours are stronger protection than the police?

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Of course. The police takes a while to get there.

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Yesterday, Serenazgo was here evicting vendors from the streets. They seemed effective at that, no?

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Yes.

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Those are itinerant vendors.

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You might not believe it, but those itinerant vendors are the ones who make people come here.

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I didn't believe it. Neither did I accept; I thought they should pay rent just like the rest.

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I own this stand, but I used to pay rent.

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But what happens is that when they get evicted, people stop coming.

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Because many clients first come to see the itinerant vendors recycling, and then they come in to the stands.

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They are important, even if many won't accept it.

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Anything else you'd like to add?

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No, only to mention that as women we can also thrive alone,

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and to have the same rights and do what we like to do.

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I like my work.

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We can also be treated in the same way.

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No to machismo!

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