Nevertheless, Duncan (who declined to be interviewed) has aided John's push to save the lives of those who do cross. He prodded the Bureau of Land Management to give Water Station the right to set up on public land and helped secure $92,000 for John's proposal—later defeated—to install lifesaving buoys in the All-American Canal, a 200-foot-wide aqueduct that skirts the border. In July, testifying before a congressional committee on the efficacy of a fenced border, Duncan boasted, "You may know, my brother is a well-known humanitarian who...puts out water in the desert to keep people from dying of thirst." John rejects the "humanitarian" moniker, saying, "The average person associates those guys with losers." He adds: "We come from the same mother. We only fistfight on alternate Tuesdays."