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Transcript: Masum



Masum

Madinat Zayed, Abu Dhabi, January 21st, 2014

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In addition to this, I am also comfortable sharing the following item(s):

[X] The city of residence of the recipient of this letter/phone call
[X] The recorded audio of my 5 minutes of questions
[X] Incidental recorded audio (conversations had, questions asked, enthusiasm expressed outside of the official 5 minutes
[X] The transcribed text of my 5 minutes of questions
[X] Complete and utter faith in the artist

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Director's note: The following interview was conducted with the assistance of Fatima Maan and Umair Ahsan. Translation and transcription were made possible by Fatima and Khadeeja Farooqui.

R: respondent 
I: Interviewer (Umair Ahsan)
Urdu

R: hamara friend ko

I: kis shehar phone keya?

R: Gulu ko bola shadi keray ga, larki dekhnay k leeye phone keya.

I: kya?

Fatima Maan: shaadi k leeye kaha

I: acha acha chalein, uski baat baad mei

[…]

Interviewer: aap zara sa idhar side per aa jayein... umm, acha, umm, masoom bilal...

Masoom Billah: Masoom Billah

Interviewer: Masoom Billah, acha, aap ne kahan phone keya tha? Bangladesh?

Masoom Billah: Bangladesh phone keya tha.

I: kis city?

MB: Bangladesh... Blis

I: Blis?

MB: Blis.

I: aap ne kis ko phone keya tha?

MB: mera friend ko

I: friend ko phone keya tha? aur aap apnay friend k baray mai batana chahein gye? kon hei apka dost? kesa dost hei?

MB: haan humara friend ka bataye ga, wo hamaray leeye larki dekhay ga... aur February mei hum wapis jaye ga, shaadi 
karay ga

I: acha, aap k leeye larki dekhay ga?

MB: hamara larki dekhay ga wo

I: apkay leeye larki dekhay ga, aur February mai ja ker shadi keray ga?

MB: February mai shadi keray ga

I: acha, tou ye apkay dost hein kon?

MB: hamara dost hei GuluGulu (Respondent uttered a name which I can't understand)

I: nai, apka bachpan ka... poorana dost hei?

MB: hamara poorana dost hei. hamaray sath humko school say hei, wo kinder garden maloom hei?

I: kinder garden? school say apka dost hei?

MB: haan school say hei! five year! udhar say humaray saath job keray ga. job keray ga, baad mei hum idhar aye ga, idhar per government ka... post office maloom hei

I: hmm?

MB: post office?

Fatima and Interviewer: haan haan

MB: post office mai job keray ga, tou apka government ka visa aye ga, tou wo idhar aye ga

I: tou wo idhar aye ga?

MB: idhar aye ga abhe. wo udhar say apka wala, apka (inaudible) teaching de ga parcel ka, tou wo admi hamara friend 
hai, tou wo hamara sath mei job keray ga

I: ahan... aur apka bohat acha dost hei?

MB: bohat acha dost hei

(Yannick and Fatima talking)

I: acha, tou aap unsay is wakt dur kyu hein? yahan pe kyu hein? ap unkay pass kyu nei hein? unkay saath kyu nei hein?

MB: hamara dur say, hamara mulk dur say hei

I: aap apnay dost k saath kyu nei hein? aap ne unko phone keya na, tou iska maltab hei k aap dost say kaafi dur hein, dost say itna dur kis waja say hein? aap yahan per kis leeye hein?

Fatima: aap yahan kyu ayay hein? un sub ko chor ker, yahan kyu ayay hein?

I: dost ko chor ker yahan per kyu hein is wakt?

MB: maloom nai

I: acha chalein ye batayein, aap ne apnay dost ko kyu phone keya, aap ne kisy aur ko phone kyu nei keya? kis tarhan aap ne... kyu aap ne apnay dost ko choose keeya phone k leeye? Kisy aur say kyu nai baat ke aap ne?

MB: hamara dost k saath hum ne baat kara hei

I: haan, kyu ke aap ne? dost say kyu ke? kisy aur ko kyu nai keya phone? kya waja hai? kyu aap ne dost say baat ke?

MB: bolay ga na, k larki dekhay ga, baat keray ga

I: acha, larki ka batanay k leeye phone keeya

MB: haan, bola k baat keray ga

I: ahan, us say aap ne pehlay baat ke hei larki k baray mai?

MB: haan, pehlay dou bell de ga, wo miss call de ga

I: acha miss call de ga?

MB: haan wo miss call dega, abhe wo busy hei, miss call receive nei karay ga. baad mei abhe time milay ga, abhi wo admi call keray ga

I: acha, theek hei. aur aap ne... kis aur ko phone ker saktay thay, laikin aap ne nahe keeya?

MB: hum ko?

I: haan aap kisy aur ko kersaktay thay dost k bajaye?

MB: haan dost ko maloom hai, k wo job keray ga idhar, maloom hei.

I: acha, aur aap apnay baray mei kuch batana chahein gye?

MB: apko bataye ga... ye apka, ye government ka, ye idhar ka government ka hei?

I: ye?

MB: Haan

I: nai, ye hum university k student hein

MB: university ka student hei?

I: haan ye hamara project hei

MB: apka mulk?

I: Mei Pakistan say hu

MB: Pakistan say? Apka?

Fatima Maan: Pakistan

MB: UAE university ka idhar ayega? apka ye faiday ka baat nei?

I: ye hum janna chahtay hein k logg.... hum... logo ko behtar tareekay say jana chahtay hein. k log kis tarhan say yahan per rehtay hein... kya halaat hein, kya sochtay hein, iss leeye...

MB: hum ko five minute baat kera

I: hmm?

MB: Hum ko five minute baat kera

I: haan

MB: wo five minute baat kera, tou aap ko tou nahe sunai dega, tou apka kya faida hai?

I: nai, university dega paisay

MB: university dega?

I: haan

MB: hamara faida he faida hei

I: haan

(Incredibly inaudible)

I: apka dost?

MB: hamara dost apko maulana, maulvi maloom hei?

I: haan?

MB: maulvi maloom hei? apka wohee ye maulana ka... wohe admi hei maulvi

I: acha

(inaudible)

I: aap apnay baray mai kuch batana chahein gye, k aap kya kertay hein...

MB: aap kya kerta hai?

I: mai tou student hu

MB: student hei? hum idhar ka job keray ga

I: abhe aap job nai ker rahay?

MB: abhe job hei. abhe jo apka duty hei na? hamara duty subah 7 bajay start hei, apka dou bajay duty finish hei. dou bajay say apka... 4... dou ghanta aur time mile ga. baad mai apka room mei aye ga. room mai aye ga wash karay ga. baki sub khalaas karay ga. baad mai ander say (inaudible) room mai jaye ga, khana khaye ga, baad mai aapka wo television dekhay ga. Bangladesh ka news dekhay ga, apka Hindi film dekhay ga, baad mei raat ko soye ga.

I: ye apka routine hei?

MB: ye routine hei.

I: acha, chalein. bohat bohat shukreeya.

MB: apka shukreeya.

I: shukreeya

MB: room mei jaye ga?

I: haan?

MB: hamara room mei jaye ga?

I: nai, nai, nai, abhe hamein thora kaam hei... humein thora kaam hei.

MB: kaam hei? next time okay?

I: okay.

English


R: To my friend.

I: Which city did you call?

R: I told Gulu that I will marry, he'll look for a girl, so I called.

I: What?

Fatima Maan: To tell about the marriage.

I: Okay, right. We'll talk about that in a bit.

[…]

I: Why don't you come a little to this side? So, okay, Masoom [ ________ ]

MB: Masoom [ ________ ]

I: Masoom [ ________ ], okay, where did you call? Bangladesh?

MB: Called Bangladesh.

I: Which city?

MB: Bangladesh... Blis.

I: Blis?

MB: Blis.

I: Who did you make the phone call to?

MB: To my friend.

I: You called your friend? And would you like to tell something about your friend? Who is your friend? What sort of a friend is he?

MB: I told my friend, and he'll look for a girl for me. And I'll go back in February and get married.

I: So, he'll look for a girl for you, and (you will) get married in February?

MB: Will marry in February.

I: So, who is this friend of yours?

MB: My friend is GuluGulu (Respondent uttered a name which I can't understand)

I: No, is he your childhood's... is he an old friend?

MB: He's an old friend. He's with me since schoool. Know of kinder garden?

I: Kinder garden? He's your friend since school?

MB: Yes, since school. Five year! And he used to work with us. He worked with me. Later on, I came here. Here, the government's... Know of post-office?

I: Hmm?

MB: Post-office?

Fatima and Interviewer: Yes, yes.

MB: Will work in post-office, and then the government will issue a visa, so then he'll come here.

Interviewer: So, he'll come here?

MB: So, he'll come here now. So then someone will teach him how to parcel, so that man is our friend, and he'll work with me.

I: Ahan, so he is a very good friend of yours?

MB: Very good friend.

(Yannick and Fatima talking inaudibly)

I: So, why are you away from him right now? Why are you here? Why are you not with him?

MB: It's far away, my country is fa away.

I: Why are you not with your friend? You called him, right? So this means that you are quite far away from your friend. Why are you so far away? Why are you here?

Fatima: Why are you here? Why are you here, after leaving all of them?

I: Why have you left him to be here at this time?

MB: I don't know.

I: Oh okay, so tell, why did you call your friend? Why didn't you call someone else? In what way did you... why did you choose your friend to call? Why didn't you talk to someone else?

MB: I told you, right? That he'll look for a girl, and talk about me.

I: Oh, so you called him to tell about the girl.

MB: Yes, he said that he'll talk.

I: Ahan, so have you talked to him about the girl before?

MB: Yes, called him twice, so he'll ring a missed bell.

I: Okay, so he'll give you a miss call?

MB: Yes, he'll give a miss call. He's busy right now. He won't receive the miss call. So, then he'll have time later, and call me.

I: Okay, fine. And who else did you... who else could you have called but you didn't?

MB: To us?

I: Yes, could you have called someone else besides your friend?

MB: Yes, the friend knows that he's gonna get a job here, and work here. He knows.

I: Okay, and would you like to tell us something about yourself?

MB: I'd tell you. This... yours... is this governmental? Is this [the UAE's] government's?

I: This?

MB: Yes.

I: No, we are university students.

MB: You're a university student?

I: Yes, this is our project.

MB: Your country?

I: I am from Pakistan.

MB: Your country?

Fatima Maan: Pakistan.

MB: You came here for UAE university? Isn't this to your benefit/ How is it to your benefit?

I: We want to know about people... we... we want to know people better, like, how do they live here... in what conditions and what they think...

MB: I called for five minutes?

I: What?

MB: I called for five minutes?

I: Yes.

MB: So, we talked for five minutes, but you couldn't hear it. So, how is it to your benefit?

I: No, the university will pay.

MB: The university will?

I: Yes.

MB: It is all to my advantage.

I: Yes.

(inaudible)

I: Your friend?

MB: My friend. Do you know of the Maulvi? Or Maulana?

I: what?

MB: Do you know of Maulvi? The Maulana is Maulvi.

I: Okay.

(Inaudible)

I: Would you like to tell us something about yourself, what do you do?

MB: What do you do?

I: I am a student.

MB: You're a student? I will work here.

I: Are you not working right now?

MB: I am working right now. Right now my duty is from 7 in the morning, to 2 in the afternoon. From two o clock to... four... you get two more hours. Then I come to my room. Then I take a shower. And finish other matter. Then from inside... (Inaudible) I'll come to the room, eat dinner, then watch television. I watch news of Bangladesh and then I watch a Hindi film. At night, I go to sleep.

I: So, this is your routine?

MB: Yes, this is routine.

I: Okay then, thank you very much.

MB: Thank you.

I: Thanks.

MB: Come to the room?

I: what?

MB: Would you like to come to my room?

I: No, no, no. We have some work... we have some work.

MB: You have work? Okay, then next time?

I: Okay.
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