And why did you choose the phone and not the letter?

Um, I do write —the only form of writing that I do is writing postcards whenever I'm traveling. I—I'll write a postcard if I'm going to somewhere new, and I'll send it to my friends all over. But that's the only form, like letters? It's been a while, um, that I've written letters. So the phone is just like more direct. You can just like speak someone, get the most updated news and um, have a chit-chat.

Is there anything you want to tell us about yourself? Who are you?

Um, nothing I just .. usually like helping out people who um, who are into these kind of things, collecting data and things. Just because I have done it as part of my studies once so when I saw you .. I like volunteering for these kind of things (laugh)

Right. I like people who like volunteering.

(laughing) That's me.

Great. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Nice to meet you.

Take care.